Magnesium
links: Vitamins & Minerals reference: https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/magnesium-oxide-is-surprisingly-better-than-citrate.11719/ https://d1aettbyeyfilo.cloudfront.net/thercp/16666784_1612095838946rcp-instruction-manual-v9.3.pdf 4-12-2021
Magnesium #
- Magnesium is required to convert B1 to its active form. As thiamine is a cofactor for magnesium, high doses of magnesium can lower thiamine, and vice versa. Take the two together.
- Oral absorption can be quite low. It’s fat soluble, by the way.
- Synergistic uptake with B6.
- Increases 17β-HSD
- Synergizes with Vitamin D, which drastically increases requirements for magnesium.
- Decreases Aromatase activity.
Brain #
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Enhancement of Learning and Memory by Elevating Brain Magnesium (not done - looks good)
- higher density of synaptophysin-/Synaptobrevin-positive puncta in Dentate Gyrus and CA1… correlated with memory improvement. Upregulation of NR2B
- Increased the number of functional presynaptic release sites, while it reduced their release probability.
- Elevation of Brain Magnesium Potentiates Neural Stem Cell Proliferation in the Hippocampus of Young and Aged Mice
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Targeting the NMDA receptor subunit NR2B for treating or preventing age-related memory decline (2014)
- Magtein elevated brain magnesium levels which upregulates NR2B.
- (Forebrain) Upregulating the NR2B subunits in the forebrain regions leads to a longer NMDA receptor channel opening duration and larger peak amplitude… accompanied by a remarkable enhancement of LTP but no changes in LTD, as well as enhanced learning and memory function.
- Enhances CREB activation from NMDAR, even in the absence of extracellular calcium. Inhibiting p38 or chelating magnesium influx prevented this. R
Supplementation #
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Food sources include cocoa, coffee, spinach, kale, oats, molasses.
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Shoot for >=200mg/day.
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Do you even need to take it everyday? Other stuff it’s synergistic with probably do, so you might as well.
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Low bioavailability != low elemental magnesium. You hve to take both into consideration.
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It seems a good stack is threonate in the morning, micromag at night, for stimulation and sedation respectively.
Magnoil #
- Magnesium L-pidolate (8.664% w/w.) is the salt of L-pyroglutamic acid. Haidut claims that its presence in the DMSO makes it a lot less irritating and without drying/peeling, and it absorbs in 20 minutes (it’s an absorption enhancer, too) leaving the skin smooth. 30mL of liquid.
- Haidut says 1 drop = ~25mg of DMSO. Calculator says 25mg = 0.02mL; 50 drops for 1mL of DMSO. 1 drop also has 13.3mg of magnesium.
- They just got from a database that DMSO is 1.1014g/cm^2. Just unit conversion after that.
- Haidut says 1 drop = ~25mg of DMSO. Calculator says 25mg = 0.02mL; 50 drops for 1mL of DMSO. 1 drop also has 13.3mg of magnesium.
- 750 drops for $30. 1 drop ~=13.3mg, so 15 drops = 200mg, which lasts 50 days. 20 drops = 270mg, which lasts 37 days.
Malate #
65% elemental and 20% absorption… so 2g becomes something like 250.
Glycinate (Bisglycinate) #
Tastes horrible like oversweetened metal. 14% elemental magnesium.
- Nootropicsdepot: $25 120x800mg
- Pure encapsulations; $19 90x120mg of elemental magnesium
- Thorne:
$40$32 12g (With a monk fruit additive) - Doctor’s best: $11 120x100mg (~4.0x cheaper than thorne)
- Bulk supplements: $12 100g
- Purebulk: $8.75 100g
Aspartate #
400-800mg.
Threonate (Magtein) #
No taste. Costly, but causes no irritation
- Might make you stimulated, not sleepy. People on ND say it’s a good nootropic, due to it crossing the BBB and containing Threonic Acid. Probably a better option than micromag if you’re not deficient.
- Only like 7% elemental magnesium: Assuming 300mg from diet, take 4g for 280.
- 4g daily (280mg) @ $60 120g = $2/day; 30 days
- Acetylcholinesterase inhibitor
Sucrosomial/ Micromag #
- Insoluble in water. Tastes way better than glycinate and is very easy on the intestine.
- Nootropicsdepot: $35 90x625 (56.2g) https://nootropicsdepot.com/micromag-novel-highly-bioavailable-magnesium-supplement/
- 32-38% elemental magnesium! Encased in a sucrosome structure to increase bioavailability and reduce GI discomfort.
- Thus, assuming 300 from diet, you only need like 300mg. = 900mg scoop = 33 days; 0.6/day
- A sucrester is a curose ester of a fatty acid. Very easily absorbed into cells, especially M cells, found in the intestine.
- Probably makes you sleepy compared to threonate. A review said high doses made him stimulated.
Carbonate #
Citrate #
Can cause explosive diarrhea. Simple as
Oxide #
Trash it. Has notoriously poor absorption. By weight, it has much more elemental magnesium compared to some other forms, so it can work?