yana-notes

Magnesium

links: Vitamins & Minerals reference: https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/magnesium-oxide-is-surprisingly-better-than-citrate.11719/ https://d1aettbyeyfilo.cloudfront.net/thercp/16666784_1612095838946rcp-instruction-manual-v9.3.pdf 4-12-2021

Magnesium #

  • Magnesium is required to convert B1 to its active form. As thiamine is a cofactor for magnesium, high doses of magnesium can lower thiamine, and vice versa. Take the two together.
  • Oral absorption can be quite low. It’s fat soluble, by the way.
  • Synergistic uptake with B6.
  • Increases 17β-HSD
  • Synergizes with Vitamin D, which drastically increases requirements for magnesium.
  • Decreases Aromatase activity.

Brain #

Supplementation #

  • Food sources include cocoa, coffee, spinach, kale, oats, molasses.

  • Shoot for >=200mg/day.

  • Do you even need to take it everyday? Other stuff it’s synergistic with probably do, so you might as well.

  • Low bioavailability != low elemental magnesium. You hve to take both into consideration.

  • It seems a good stack is threonate in the morning, micromag at night, for stimulation and sedation respectively.

Magnoil #

  • Magnesium L-pidolate (8.664% w/w.) is the salt of L-pyroglutamic acid. Haidut claims that its presence in the DMSO makes it a lot less irritating and without drying/peeling, and it absorbs in 20 minutes (it’s an absorption enhancer, too) leaving the skin smooth. 30mL of liquid.
    • Haidut says 1 drop = ~25mg of DMSO. Calculator says 25mg = 0.02mL; 50 drops for 1mL of DMSO. 1 drop also has 13.3mg of magnesium.
      • They just got from a database that DMSO is 1.1014g/cm^2. Just unit conversion after that.
  • 750 drops for $30. 1 drop ~=13.3mg, so 15 drops = 200mg, which lasts 50 days. 20 drops = 270mg, which lasts 37 days.

Malate #

65% elemental and 20% absorption… so 2g becomes something like 250.

Glycinate (Bisglycinate) #

Tastes horrible like oversweetened metal. 14% elemental magnesium.

  • Nootropicsdepot: $25 120x800mg
  • Pure encapsulations; $19 90x120mg of elemental magnesium
  • Thorne: $40 $32 12g (With a monk fruit additive)
  • Doctor’s best: $11 120x100mg (~4.0x cheaper than thorne)
  • Bulk supplements: $12 100g
  • Purebulk: $8.75 100g

Aspartate #

400-800mg.

Threonate (Magtein) #

No taste. Costly, but causes no irritation

  • Might make you stimulated, not sleepy. People on ND say it’s a good nootropic, due to it crossing the BBB and containing Threonic Acid. Probably a better option than micromag if you’re not deficient.
  • Only like 7% elemental magnesium: Assuming 300mg from diet, take 4g for 280.
    • 4g daily (280mg) @ $60 120g = $2/day; 30 days
  • Acetylcholinesterase inhibitor

Sucrosomial/ Micromag #

  • Insoluble in water. Tastes way better than glycinate and is very easy on the intestine.
  • Nootropicsdepot: $35 90x625 (56.2g) https://nootropicsdepot.com/micromag-novel-highly-bioavailable-magnesium-supplement/
  • 32-38% elemental magnesium! Encased in a sucrosome structure to increase bioavailability and reduce GI discomfort.
    • Thus, assuming 300 from diet, you only need like 300mg. = 900mg scoop = 33 days; 0.6/day
  • A sucrester is a curose ester of a fatty acid. Very easily absorbed into cells, especially M cells, found in the intestine.
  • Probably makes you sleepy compared to threonate. A review said high doses made him stimulated.

Carbonate #

Citrate #

Can cause explosive diarrhea. Simple as

Oxide #

Trash it. Has notoriously poor absorption. By weight, it has much more elemental magnesium compared to some other forms, so it can work?