Kanna
2022-04-30: reference: 2022-02-04
Kanna (Sceletium tortuosum) #
Very rare. Have to go on reddit to find actual growers like from South Africa; the other stuff is just a different plant with similar alkaloids. Contains a few non-psychedelic alkaloids.
- Inhibits Acetylcholinesterase.
- VP doesn’t consider it much of an SSRI, I guess due to the dose required.
- Upregulates VMAT2, making it a monoamine-releasing agent (MRA) - this also includes histamine and GABA.
- VP says the VMAT2 upregulation might only be on serotonergic neurons.,
- Upregulates TAAR1; the only thing that does, according to Uxkull.
- Possible cannabinoid agonist.
- Increases C-Reactive Protein?
- Contains the alkaloids:
- (Δ7-)mesembrenone: SSRI and PDE4 inhibitor.
- Mesembrine: SSRI, PDE4 inhibitor, MRA, VMAT2 upregulator.
- ~500μg pure is probably the highest safe does according to VP.
- MAO-Ai is basically negligible.
- Mesembrenol
- Tortuosamine
- [Pharmacological actions of the South African medicinal and functional food plant Sceletium tortuosum and its principal alkaloids]
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- 4.6 IC50 on SERT. 236 IC50 on δ-Opioid Receptor—so is that negligible or what?
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High-mesembrine Sceletium extract (Trimesemine™) is a monoamine releasing agent, rather than only a selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor - in vitro
- Only mild AChEi.
- 1 mg/ml of pure mesembrine achieved only a E30% AChE in hibition, while the complete alkaloid extract from Sceletium tortuosum inhibited AChE in a dose-dependent manner, with the highest concentration assessed (1 mg/ml) resulting in 87% inhibition, which suggests that the non-mesembrine portion of Sceletium may be responsible for the plant’s inhibitory effects on AChE activity. Somewhat surprisingly, a whole extract with low mesembrine content was reported to only inhibit acetylcholinester-ase activity by 7% (Harvey et al., 2011).
- Cannabinoid CB1 receptor binding and acetylcholinesteraseinhibitory activity of Sceletium tortuosum L.
- Modulation of glucocorticoid, mineralocorticoid and androgen production in H295 cells by Trimesemine™, a mesembrine-rich Sceletium extract
Dose/Source #
- https://tristill.com/trimesemine/ a properietary blend of mesembytheuym alkaloids. Liftmode is legit.
- Take buccaly/sublingually.
- Headaches when taken in high doses andor when insufflated.
- I hear it can be anxiogenic during the comeup before anxiolytic.
<10mg/day (extract). Doesn’t scale that much with dose.
Insufflation lasts 30-90 minutes, peaking around 5-10, with a 0-5 minute onset. Oral: 4-6 hours; 30-60 minute onset.
- Priming? Taking a few doses before you actually start to feel it.
- MX12 extract from Ultrakanna: https://www.ultrakanna.com/product/mx-12-powder-extract-1g/