Lactobacillus
2023-04-04:
Lactobacillus #
- It’s even Peaty https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/lactobacillus-pl-increases-endurance-subjects-by-58-percent.31589/
- Lactobacillus reuteri: A Diet-Sensitive Commensal Lactobacillus Strain Mediates TLR7-Dependent Systemic Autoimmunity - https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/a-common-probiotic-strain-lactobacillus-may-cause-lupus.27085/
- So why would you ever want more lactic acid? I guess lowering pH is an advantage; beneficial bacteria also thrive therein - supposedly
- Swiss chad post:
https://www.reddit.com/r/NooTopics/comments/12qj0rv/probiotics_for_athletic_performance/
- [Lactobacillus salivarius Subspecies salicinius SA-03 is a New Probiotic Capable of Enhancing Exercise Performance and Decreasing Fatigu]
- Significantly improved muscle strength and endurance performance, increased hepatic and muscular glycogen storage, and decreased lactate, blood urea nitrogen (BUN), ammonia, and creatine kinase (CK) levels after exercise.
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Supplementation with Human-Origin Probiotic Lactobacillus plantarum PL-02 Could Effectively Improve Muscle Mass and Exercise Performance, and Have an Anti-Fatigue Effect
- could significantly increase muscle mass, improve muscle strength and endurance performance, and increase hepatic and muscular glycogen storage. Furthermore, PL-02 could significantly decrease fatigue biochemical parameters, such as lactate, blood urea nitrogen (BUN), ammonia, and creatine kinase (CK) levels, after exercise.
- [Live and Heat-Killed Probiotic Lactobacillus paracasei PS23 Accelerated the Improvement and Recovery of Strength and Damage Biomarkers after Exercise-Induced Muscle Damage]
- we found that L-PS23 or HK-PS23 supplementation for six weeks prevented strength loss after muscle damage and improved blood muscle damage and inflammatory markers, with protective, accelerated recovery and anti-fatigue benefits.
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Effects of Lactobacillus gasseri OLL2809 and α-lactalbumin on university-student athletes: a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled clinical trial
- ingestion was effective in preventing reduced natural killer cell activity due to strenuous exercise and elevating mood from a depressed state. In addition, LG2809 + αLA was found to alleviate minor resting fatigue, which was supported objectively by the significant reduction in the serum reactive oxygen metabolites and transforming growth factor β1 levels
- [Lactobacillus salivarius Subspecies salicinius SA-03 is a New Probiotic Capable of Enhancing Exercise Performance and Decreasing Fatigu]
TWK-10 #
- *Homofermentative, vancomycin resistant organisms with a nomadic lifestyle that ferment a wide range of carbohydrates; most species metabolise phenolic acids by esterase, decarboxylase and reductase activities. L. plantarum expresses pseudocatalase and nitrate reductase activities. *
- They can respire oxygen and express cytochromes if heme and menaquinone are present in the growth medium. In the absence of heme and menaquinone, oxygen is consumed by NADH-peroxidase with hydrogen peroxide as intermediate and water as end product
- In place of the protective enzyme superoxide dismutase present in almost all other oxygen-tolerant cells, this organism accumulates millimolar quantities of manganese polyphosphate. Manganese is also used by L. plantarum in a pseudo-catalase to lower reactive oxygen levels. Because the chemistry by which manganese complexes protect the cells from oxygen damage is subverted by iron, these cells contain virtually no iron atoms
- L. Plantarum produces both L- and D-lactate. Cue:
https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/probiotics-are-dangerous-should-be-regulated-as-drugs.25418/
- Haidut says it’s okay if it’s in the gut, but small intestine = SIBO and should be sterile, and ideally the Colon as well.
- I believe L. Plantarum does indeed survive in the GI tract
- Haidut says it’s okay if it’s in the gut, but small intestine = SIBO and should be sterile, and ideally the Colon as well.
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Human study: TWK10 increases endurance subjects by 58 percent
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Effect of Lactobacillus Plantarum TWK10 on Improving Endurance Performance in Humans
- Healthy men. 1x100B CFU after each meal for 6 weeks.
- 10 mothafuckin capsules!
- No effect on post-workout lactate, ammonia, or creatine kinase. Higher post-workout glucose.
- Healthy men. 1x100B CFU after each meal for 6 weeks.
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Effect of Lactobacillus Plantarum TWK10 on Improving Endurance Performance in Humans
- https://www.ergo-log.com/lactobacillus-plantarum-twk10.html
- Feed it food with fructo-oligosaccharide prebiotics. NOW brand. I think this is also in breast milk prebiotic fiber.
- Cue the couple hits in this 980-post megathread: Why Is There So Much Soluble Fibre In Human Breast Milk
- Amazoniac has some good posts on this.
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Microbial degradation of complex carbohydrates in the gut
- The health benefits attributed to various prebiotics, including FOS and GOS, have been extensively reviewed:
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Microbial degradation of complex carbohydrates in the gut
- Anywhere from 1-9 whole capsules ($30 90ct, 10B each): https://www.kaged.com/products/pro-biotic?variant=39367543652417 also sold on iherb. Quite possibly some bad quality control
- Effect of Lactobacillus plantarum TWK10 on Exercise Physiological Adaptation, Performance, and Body Composition in Healthy Humans
PS128 #
- https://www.ergo-log.com/lactobacillus-plantarum-ps128-a-probiotic-that-speeds-up-athletes-muscle-recovery.html
- Lactobacillus plantarum PS128 alleviates neurodegenerative progression in 1-methyl-4-phenyl-1,2,3,6-tetrahydropyridine-induced mouse models of Parkinson’s disease
Bifidobacterium longum OLP-01 #
Not even Lactobacillus but fuck it since this is the TWK10 page.
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https://ergo-log.com/super-saiyan-probiotic-bifidobacterium-longum-olp-01.html
- Had smaller fat stores in the testicles, tf?
Dose #
So 3x/daily showed notable gains over 1x. It would make sense to honestly do a megadose at least for a loading period to actually estbalish the strain in your gut, and provide fructo-oligosaccharides all the while, and thereafter to sustain the population indefinitely (theoretically).